Episodes

Tuesday Nov 18, 2025
Library Leadership in Action: What’s Shaping Michigan Libraries
Tuesday Nov 18, 2025
Tuesday Nov 18, 2025
In this episode, host Dillon Geshel is joined by Jenny Marr, executive director of the Capital Area District Libraries and current MLA board president, along with Steven Bowers, executive director of The Library Network and immediate past chair of the Library Cooperatives of Michigan. Together, they explore how Michigan’s libraries continue to evolve to meet the changing needs of their communities. Jenny and Steven share their early paths into library work, discuss emerging trends in services and programming, and highlight the vital role libraries play in championing intellectual freedom and community engagement. The conversation also examines the sector’s biggest challenges—from staff recruitment and retention to rising censorship efforts—and how library leaders are adapting to support diverse access, inclusion, and a thriving public library ecosystem.
Chapter & Verse is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Literacy and Leadership: Building Community Through Librarianship
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
In this episode, hosts Dillon Geshel and Christine Peele sit down with Susan Taylor, branch manager of the Edison Branch Library at the Detroit Public Library. Susan reflects on her two decades in librarianship, beginning with her early experiences in Jamaica and spanning a variety of roles across DPL. She shares powerful moments from her work as a literacy specialist, where she helped adults strengthen their reading skills, and offers insight into the evolving role of libraries in today’s communities. The conversation explores how technology—including AI—may shape the future of public libraries, the importance of listening and adaptability in serving patrons, and Susan’s passion for creating meaningful connections with the community.
Chapter & Verse is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Aug 14, 2025
Community First: Strengthening Services in a Resource-Limited Library
Thursday Aug 14, 2025
Thursday Aug 14, 2025
In this episode, hosts Dillon Geshel and Kate Pohjola Andrade welcome Mary Gallup, director of the Clinton Township Public Library, who shares her inspiring path from stay-at-home mom to library leader. Mary reflects on the community connections that sparked her career, the creative programs and advocacy efforts that have shaped her tenure, and the realities of serving a small library with limited resources. The conversation dives into navigating political and township dynamics, championing intellectual freedom, and embracing the evolving role of libraries as vital community hubs.
Chapter & Verse is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Jul 10, 2025
Small-Town Innovation: Renovating and Reimagining the Library Experience
Thursday Jul 10, 2025
Thursday Jul 10, 2025
In this episode, hosts Dillon Geshel and Kate Van Auken talk with Briynne McCrea, director of the Bad Axe Area District Library in Bad Axe, Michigan. Briynne shares her unique journey from spending her childhood in the library to leading it through transformative changes, including a major renovation and launching a community-focused bookmobile. The conversation explores the vital role libraries play in small towns, the challenges of leading with limited resources, and how building trust and fostering engagement are key to a library’s long-term impact.
Chapter & Verse is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Jun 12, 2025
Thursday Jun 12, 2025
In this episode, hosts Debbie Mikula and Jennifer Balcom talk with Tracy Logan-Walker, director of Cadillac Wexford Public Library in Cadillac, Michigan. Tracy reflects on her journey from small-town beginnings to a career in librarianship, sharing the early influences that shaped her path. She highlights the vital role libraries play in their communities, recalls meaningful moments from her career, and addresses current challenges—including the fight for intellectual freedom and the spread of misinformation. Tracy also shares her hopes and excitement for the evolving future of libraries.
Chapter & Verse is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday May 08, 2025
Creating Safe Spaces: Outreach, Inclusion, and the Modern Library
Thursday May 08, 2025
Thursday May 08, 2025
In this episode, hosts Debbie Mikula and Mallorie DeVilbiss talk with Olivia Olson, head of community engagement at the Troy Public Library. Olivia reflects on her early love of libraries and the path that led her into library work. She shares how the community engagement department came to life and how programs like the bookmobile and the English Language Learners Book Club are expanding the library’s reach. From serving diverse communities to creating safe, welcoming spaces, Olivia offers insight into the evolving role of libraries and the powerful connections they foster. Her stories of working with patrons and her vision for the future remind us why libraries remain essential pillars of community life.
Chapter & Verse is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Apr 10, 2025
From Shelves to Support: Evolving the Library Experience
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
In this episode, hosts Debbie Mikula and Andrea Estelle sit down with Sarah Skinner, director of the Bridgman Public Library in Bridgman, Michigan. Sarah reflects on her path to library leadership, sharing key moments that shaped her career and community impact. She highlights standout initiatives like Project Connect, and discusses the evolving role of libraries as vital hubs for connection, support, and access to essential services. The conversation also touches on the challenges libraries face today, including funding concerns and the ongoing push to remain relevant in a rapidly changing world.
Chapter & Verse is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Mar 13, 2025
Cataloging Change: The Evolving Role of Libraries
Thursday Mar 13, 2025
Thursday Mar 13, 2025
In this episode, hosts Debbie Mikula and Dillon Geshel sit down with Amanda Griggs, cataloger and technical services specialist at Dickinson County Library in Iron Mountain, Michigan. Amanda shares her journey from childhood library visits to becoming a key player in cataloging and technical services. She discusses the evolving role of libraries, public misconceptions, and the essential services they provide to communities. The conversation also delves into challenges like book bans and the ongoing fight to ensure open access to information.
Chapter & Verse is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Feb 13, 2025
How Libraries Serve as Community Hubs
Thursday Feb 13, 2025
Thursday Feb 13, 2025
In this episode, hosts Debbie Mikula and Steven K. Bowers sit down with Azita Frattarelli, director and youth librarian at the Riverview Veterans Memorial Library in Riverview, Michigan. Azita shares her journey from journalism to librarianship, her earliest library memory, and the meaningful relationships she’s built with patrons. The discussion explores how libraries have evolved into vital community hubs and emphasizes the power of kindness and connection in serving the public.
Chapter & Verse is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Jan 09, 2025
Strengthening Communities Through Libraries
Thursday Jan 09, 2025
Thursday Jan 09, 2025
In this episode, hosts Debbie Mikula and Carol Dawe sit down with Virginia DeMumbrum, director of the White Lake Community Library, to explore her inspiring journey from children’s librarian to community leader. Motivated by her children’s needs, Virginia has transformed the library into a hub of impactful programs, including evening storytimes, resources for non-English speakers, and community events like the beloved "one long table." She shares her vision for improving accessibility for individuals with disabilities, expanding library services, and integrating sustainable initiatives such as solar panels. Virginia also reflects on the power of community support within Michigan’s library system and the meaningful relationships she’s built with patrons over the years.
Chapter & Verse is produced by Association Briefings.






